hamas refuses to recognize israel. i asked from the peculiars lo which is how much control do they have? i have a lot of sympathy from the poor people of gaza and not hamas who are blasting rockets and the main booed of 1.5 million severely oppressed people living with no hope, no jobs. nothing. what is the way to try and get a better life for them? who can bring that to them? >> i agree with allen that israel certainly has a right to self-defense. a, i would contest the idea that this is an effective way to do that. no israelis have been killed by this shower of hamas rockets which is absolutely unacceptable and deplorable and nobody had been killed until this action. >> you can't wait until it hits a school bus. you have to stop the risk when you have hundreds and hundreds of rockets. you can't wait until it hits a school. >> now israelis have died, and i also, you know, think that at the end of the day this will be an ineffective way of advancing israeli security. i do think that engaging with the palestinian author